Mark 'TDK' Knight - Chip musician and Video Games Composer

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Title: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on July 18, 2009, 09:10:06 PM
Hi peeps,

I've been pondering whether I should do a complete re-recording/re-mix of the Total Meltdown music, just as I have (almost) done with Cyberspeed.

The biggest setback with doing this is, unlike Cyberspeed, I don't have the sequencer data since the motherboard of the Mac clone I used to write the music went pop, and I had backed up onto Zip disk, which then got the dreaded "click of death".

Anyway, yesterday I decided to have a go at remaking Echo and the Harewoman since it's a pretty simple track really.

Here are the results.

Click Here (http://www.gamesounds.co.uk/audio/dnukem/Mark%20%27TDK%27%20Knight%20-%20Duke%20Nukem%20Total%20Meltdown%202009%20-%20Echo%20and%20the%20Harewoman%20WIP%20128k.mp3)

I definately thing it's worth choosing some other tracks, and maybe creating an album of perhaps 10 remade tracks, using today's technology (and what I've learnt in the past 12 years),

Thoughts?

m
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: SAQOA on July 19, 2009, 01:45:04 AM
Go for it man, it think it would be very much appreciated by fans. 8)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mortecha on July 19, 2009, 02:58:25 AM
This soinds like a really awesome concept. Go for it, I will definitely buy a copy:P
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on July 19, 2009, 03:01:12 AM
lol - it's about time I offered something up for sale, rather than for free. I've got at least 2 albums worth of stuff, plus Cyberspeed Reimagined.. and maybe this.. Just need more hours in the day ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Reborn on July 19, 2009, 09:48:35 AM
Yeah, I think it is a great idea Mark! Go for it! ;D
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on July 20, 2009, 11:53:58 PM
You may want to download it again now as I've made a couple of small improvements.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Reborn on July 21, 2009, 11:05:17 AM
It's cooler now! ;D
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on July 25, 2009, 01:32:36 AM
Cool - thanks.. Started having a look at Stalker 2 now... can't find the right sounds yet though :(
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Reborn on July 25, 2009, 10:51:25 AM
Stalker is one my favorite songs from Duke!
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on July 26, 2009, 03:16:30 AM
Well I started this today... it's early yet...

Click Here (http://www.gamesounds.co.uk/audio/dnukem/Mark%20%27TDK%27%20Knight%20-%20Duke%20Nukem%20Total%20Meltdown%202009%20-%20Stalker%202%20WIP%20128k.mp3)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Reborn on July 26, 2009, 08:56:54 AM
Hmm...It sounds good but I personally prefer the Stalker song to be less danceable...and more gloomy...after all it's a stalker :D
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on July 26, 2009, 11:19:00 PM
:) I understand. This was the whole battle with the PS version of Duke. It was aimed at the European market, and they didn't necessarily want a dark rock soundtrack, wanting a bit more of an upbeat soundtrack.

It was ultimately my call, and I don't know if it was right or not, but that's what we ended up doing. I know some people think it's the best DN soundtrack, some people think it's the worst ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Reborn on July 27, 2009, 09:18:07 AM
Yeah...well as I said it's acceptable and if it is your aim now...then by all means go forward :)...I look forward to hearing your next songs! ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on July 29, 2009, 01:44:48 AM
Well not really an aim now. The dancey/electronica vibe of Total Meltdown has always been there, for better or for worse ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown - Echo and the Harewoman 2009 re-mix. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on August 01, 2009, 04:17:48 AM
OK - a WIP full version of Stalker is now online with the same URL :)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Reborn on August 01, 2009, 09:39:45 AM
Cool ;D...love the beginning ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on August 01, 2009, 12:49:52 PM
It's getting there - there's something really missing atm. I think it's the instruments simply not gelling together.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on August 03, 2009, 01:57:59 AM
OK - Stalker 2 is updated again. I'm not getting happy with the "middle eight" which is sounding really cool now. Just needed shorter notes ;)

Also took a look at Mellow Chello this weekend.. here's there results.

Click Here (http://www.gamesounds.co.uk/audio/dnukem/Mark%20%27TDK%27%20Knight%20-%20Duke%20Nukem%20Total%20Meltdown%202009%20-%20Mellow%20Chello%20WIP%20128k.mp3)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Reborn on August 03, 2009, 07:01:43 PM
Wow...Stalker has gone beyond recognition since the original ;D
Mellow is very cool...it now sounds dramatic... ;)
Keep up the good work, Mark! 8)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on August 04, 2009, 01:13:35 AM
Ah - you do remember that there was Stalker, AND Stalker 2 in Total Meltdown?

This is a new Stalker 2 ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Reborn on August 04, 2009, 09:40:18 AM
Yes I remember...but I didn't say it right...I meant that Stalker 2 has gone through some serious transformations ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on August 04, 2009, 10:42:34 PM
:P
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Reborn on August 12, 2009, 10:54:48 AM
Are there some new updates, Mark?
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on August 13, 2009, 03:11:27 AM
Hey mate - nope, real life getting in the way. Was playing in Germany this weekend, and late nights at work again... may have something this weekend, being the last one before the family return home.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Reborn on August 13, 2009, 12:31:03 PM
Ok...there's no rush...by all means take your time! ;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on August 14, 2009, 03:17:28 AM
Thanks, lol :P
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Reborn on November 14, 2009, 01:07:34 PM
There's been a while since I heard from you, Mark.  Are there any new updates by any chance? :)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on November 14, 2009, 01:28:02 PM
Not at the moment mate. Simply not enough time away from real life :(
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Reborn on November 14, 2009, 07:46:24 PM
Oh ok...I just asked hoping I didn't miss anything:P. I hope all goes well with your family;)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on November 16, 2009, 12:10:57 AM
Cheers :)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: H_Man on February 14, 2010, 10:21:01 AM
Have to say mark , this is sounding quite good. However , I have some stuff to say.
1. I'm liking how Stalker 2 is sounding , but it seems quite back in time. I was thinking you'd have stuff like a non-synthetic horn ( Or one of these really good sounding synth horns , Heard it on some other songs by other people) at the start , and that the drums don't sound as if they've been EQ'd properly. However, you are the composer so you probably know what you are doing.
2. What program are you using? For the last few years I've been toying around with Reason 4.0 / Record 1.0 , trying to recreate one of your remixes. However I've failed because I can't exactly say I'm a pro at it. My brother is definitely the pro at it though.
3. The songs are sounding great , hope you can create more tracks.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on February 15, 2010, 12:15:23 AM
Hiya,

Thanks for the comments.

Although the brass sound isn't right yet, I don't think it calls for an orchestral horn - I've got decent libraries so could try it out though, just in case :)

As for the drums - all of the tracks are very much work in progress. I won't start mixing properly until I think they're close to being finished. As for when that will be, who knows - I've a little more work to do on Cyberspeed as yet ;) (I know, I've been saying that for 2 years - that's family life for you!)

I use (and have done for 21 years now) Cubase, this time V5 on the PC. I never got into the whole Reason thing. I wish I had, but my brain seems to only be able to cope with two music problems Cubase, and Trackers on the Amiga.

Cheers,

m
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: H_Man on February 15, 2010, 09:29:26 AM
I use (and have done for 21 years now) Cubase, this time V5 on the PC. I never got into the whole Reason thing. I wish I had, but my brain seems to only be able to cope with two music problems Cubase, and Trackers on the Amiga.

Hah! But that's life for you.

To be honest I've never really tried cubase , but considering Reason was the really the first music program I ever got my hands on ( Apart from... eugh , dare I say ... eJay?). It actually almost killed me at first but then realised how easy it really is. It's just layed out like a mixing rack , you put instruments in there , add effects , then just put in the notes in the transport.
Compared to a tracker program it's hard , but it's not impossible to learn. However , I may just go and see Cubase for myself.

Thanks for replying!
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: S.R. Nethergael on June 01, 2010, 06:16:10 AM
Forgive me a moment while I gush.

I fell in love with the music for Total Meltdown immediately upon playing the game. Ever since then I've associated it with fond memories, and even went so far as to record all of it to play on other versions of Duke Nukem (predominantly Duke Nukem 64, since it had no in-game music). Your musical style even infulenced my own as I tried to emulate several of your songs from the Total Meltdown soundtrack - namely Mellow Cello and 303. It pleases me to be able to thank you (Mr. Knight) in person for your work on the game, for your inspiration, and to be able to leave you with my thoughts on the subject of this topic.

After listening to your remixes thus far I have to say that I support any efforts you take in making a remix album. I'd happily pay full price for a complete set of remixed songs, since at this point I have emotional stock in them.

Personally I liked the full orchestrated sound in the original Stalker 2, but I'm an avid fan of trance music accompanied by a symphony so I guess that just comes with the territory. I think the fuller sound of an orchestra would add a lot of depth to the synthesized components of the track. Like what you did in your remix of Mellow Cello which, by the way, I think would benefit from a more industrial drum line. When done well industrial drums have a great flow, rhythm and complexity. They also work well for slower, more groove-like tracks (such as Mellow Cello). Just an idea I suppose.

Anyway I think I've said enough for one post. I look forward to your reply. :3
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on June 05, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
Hey - thanks for the kind words :)

Yeah, I could go more orchestrated this time around. I have a decent orchestral library for that sort of thing, but I really want to simply get the tracks sounding how they would have sounded back then if I'd had more equipment, and more mix experience.

As for industrial drums - not something I've ever had experience in doing, or even listening too. Got a few FLA albums, but not listened for a looooong time. Could give it a go though... :)

Cheers for now,

m
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: leo on June 29, 2010, 04:58:37 PM
Hey guys when mark told me about methods of meyhem i decided to start messing about with it on fl studio tell me what you think! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr8nW1Mde90
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: Mark Knight [TDK] on June 30, 2010, 02:38:25 AM
Hey guys when mark told me about methods of meyhem i decided to start messing about with it on fl studio tell me what you think! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr8nW1Mde90

Hey hey, some remixes coming my way.. Good on ya Leo. Keep me posted :)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: leo on June 30, 2010, 01:14:06 PM
thanks i`ve never done anything like this before its preety fun :P
Title: Re: Duke Nukem Total Meltdown. New album???
Post by: brinstar on December 04, 2010, 10:20:09 AM
This is great.  Keep it up.